Action Alert #109 A New WEP “Fix” Bill Has Been Introduced--H.R. 3934 1

Disclaimer:  Social Security Fairness demands complete repeal of the GPO and WEP. We paid the full contributions, we deserve the full benefits! As part of our campaign, however, it is important to keep up with what is happening in Congress and which Members are supporting changes that are short of total repeal.

There is a new bill from Kevin Brady to change the formula for the Windfall Elimination Provision (only), rather than our “complete repeal” position.

Here is the explanation of how H.R. 3934 would work, according to the National Active and Retired Federal Employees Association, a supporter of the bill:

Individuals currently affected by WEP are losing as much as $463 per month in earned benefits. The Equal Treatment of Public Servants Act seeks to replace the WEP with a formula that equalizes benefits for certain individuals with non-covered employment. The bill would provide WEP-affected individuals age 60 and older with a monthly rebate of $100 ($50 for surviving spouses). For WEP-affected individuals currently under age 20, the bill would change how the WEP is calculated. For those between age 21 and 59, the individual’s WEP penalty would be calculated either using the current formula or the new one created by the bill, whichever is more beneficial. 

Congressman Brady has always believed that the idea behind the WEP was correct but that the formula was wrong. The last time, several years ago, when he proposed a bill to correct the formula, so many amendments were added that it ended up punishing even more retirees than the original WEP. We will follow this bill to see where it goes and to see who supports it. 

For further reading, here is the NARFE announcement regarding the bill and their position:

NARFE Pushes For Social Security Fairness, Supports New Legislation to Reform Windfall Elimination Provision

Here are the names of the original cosponsors of the new Brady bill:

Rep. Tom Rice (R-SC)
Rep. Jodey Arrington (R-TX)
Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX)
Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE)
Rep. Larry Bucshon, M.D. (R-IN)
Rep. Michael C. Burgess, M.D.  (R-TX)
Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX)
Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX)
Rep. Bill Flores (R-TX)
Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX)
Rep. Kay Granger (R-TX)
Rep. Garret Graves (R-LA)
Rep. Brett Guthrie (R-KY)
Rep. Kevin Hern (R-OK)
Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX)
Rep. Steve King (R-IA)
Rep. Bob Latta (R-OH)
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX)
Rep. Pete Olson (R-TX)
Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX)
Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL)
Rep. Van Taylor (R-TX)
Rep. Filemon Vela (D-TX)
Rep. Randy Weber (R-TX)
Rep. Ron Wright (R-TX)
Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Tex)

39 Comments

  1. .I have emailed every co sponsor to stay on track with the full repeal of both GPO and WEP. HR 141 and S 915.. I have written to the legislative director of the APWU to intercede in this screwing of government workers. Brady has made a mistake in separating the government retirees from this inherent position caused by Reagan over 35 years ago. Kevin Brady is unfair to retired Government civil service members

  2. All or none…a paltry $100? That would not be enough for groceries for a week. You give an inch and they will think that we got a lot, then this will go away in their minds. I paid the full share, now I want my money! As it is now, I just retired, but it looks like i will have to go back to work to make the $500/mo they took away from me.

    1. The same situation applies to me! The WEP affects both my husband and myself. We are both having to work in our retirement years. We counted on our Social Security being there!

  3. This is a cruel joke. The only thing Brady and the co-signers are after is a sound bite and a photo OP. This does very little for those affected by the WEP and it does nothing for the GPO. A slap in the face.

  4. For years this has never even gotten out of committee. Stop wasting our time.

  5. This is a total insult. “Congressman Brady has always believed that the idea behind the WEP was correct but that the formula was wrong.” Correct????? Mr. Brady has a great job. All he has to do is work one term and he receives a huge lifetime pension and lifetime medical benefits. Why do we have to fund his future benefits through a reduction in our paid in Social Security benefits? Congress is using our money to pay for their work benefits, and that’s why they have refused to repeal this unjust tax upon us!!!!!

  6. What does it mean give 60 and over a $100 rebate? I am losing over $400 a month because of the WEP. This is my money! Seniors count on this.

  7. I faithfully paid into SS as a teacher yet I’m getting punished. We deserve our full amount owed to us.

  8. I’m losing about $500/month because of WEP. $100 a month would give me back only a small portion of what I am losing from my hard-earned Social Security benefits. (I am a retired teacher who worked as a self-employed writer for 30+ years.)

  9. I was forced to take an early retirement which hurt my pension and as I continue to work and long passed fufilled my social security requirements, the government wants to just keep twisting the screws. Why am I any different then any other worker that collects a private pension and
    social security. It’s complete nonsense . I’m not asking for anymore than I just deserve for what I put into the system. When will politicians be fare to all and not only the
    rich? Just give us what we deserve and stop this crumb of a fix bill.

  10. How about the politicians get $100/mo to live on and forego their 100% retirement paid by us “the people” plus their free healthcare. I demand my full refund of stolen monies that they have used for decades earning interest on that. Let’s not forget the monies paid in from our private sector employers who had to match $. What a sham on the American public! Can this SS Fairness body ask Pres. Trump if he would sign this piece of “kick the can down the road” garbage bill. That my $.02. Left with $99.98/mo! Buy more TP!

  11. I want what I have earned. Not 1%, not 99%, but 100% of my earned Social Security Benefits.. Anyone who does not support the complete repeal of the WEP/GPO will receive my support on Election Day, regardless of their political affiliation.

    1. Oops typo, just spent the weekend celebrating my 55 year high school class reunion. I’ll try again, LOL I will not support anyone on Election Day who does not support the complete repeal of WEP/GPO, regardless of their party affiliation.

  12. Now is the time to contact representative Brady, especially those in his district and those who support his bill to support HR 141. Tell them to become knowledgeable about the WEP and GPO by visiting our website. On the website you will find congressional research reports, facts figures and options to fix Social Security now and for the next generations.
    The GPO and WEP were wrong in 1983 and still wrong today. Social Security would be solvent if congress would just replace what has been removed from the trust fund. I think the word is embezzlement when funds are taken from a trust fund and used for other purposes with no intention of replacing the money!
    I would encourage everyone to contact their representatives, especially those who are up for re-election and ask for their support for HR 141 and Senators to support S 521. See if we receive their support then vote according.
    That’s my thoughts.
    Bill

  13. Is Brady stupid or mean? What part of not getting what we HAD to pay in does he not get? Why should only certain states pay this penalty? Why are the “heart of the country” workers being singled out to be cheated out of their “fair share?” I believe too many of the people in Congress who work for us have forgotten as they sit in D.C. on their bags of money and excellent insurance what it is like to an honest, hard-working citizen. The power has gone to their heads. They are “Legends in their on Minds.” I am so frustrated with the lack of repeal of the WEP, and I come from a state with no hope of change–Kentucky. I am ashamed to have a Senator like Mitch McConnell. He has done nothing to help the people from my part of the state, and when it comes to the WEP, he voted for it. When we come up with something that Congress believes has something in it for them, this law may change. Not before then.

    1. Kentucky public employees are in real danger of losing not only their earned Social Security but their public pension as well. You are right about the logjam in the Senate. We need someone from KY to organize and push our case. If you can do it write us at ssfairness@gmail.com!

  14. What about the retirees living in poverty?This is robbing hard working Americans of money they earned. How can Brady justify giving retirees a $100.00 monthly rebate instead of the $500.00 or more that is due them monthly? This is a disgrace.

  15. So sad and guess I will continue checking the bill for passage, crying and praying that I will make it…I just retired after researching for 8 years that this GPO and WEP repeal would come true…my faith has been crushed again. I will lose $1100/mo of my widow’s SS benefit from my husband who worked and paid into Social security for 50 years because of GPO. I feel like I am loosing him all over again. I worked 33 years for a Texas school district but will lose over $500/mo of my own SS that I paid for 16 years because of WEP. I cannot win…just keep praying Congress can help us. Thanks for listening.

    1. Let’s get Texas on board by contacting those in Texas who have not supported the repeal of the GPO and WEP.
      I’ll target Texas this week. I will call all the representatives and Senators to support the respective bills. I live in Utah but this is a national problem and if we help each other I believe we can change this injustice!

  16. THIS DISASTER EVEN IF REPEALED IS TOO LATE FOR ME AFTER 21 YEARS OF SUFFERING ITS PENALTIES. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT DURING MY YEARS OF COVERAGE, I PAID DOUBLE AT THE SELF-EMPLOYMENT RATE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME.
    THIS HAS BEEN SO DISCRIMINATORY TOWARD FAR TOO MANY OF US JUST TREATED AS PAWNS IN THE GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY.

  17. I worked for postal under csrs snf hsve worked in dss 25 year prior. Am retired and cut 33% of my ss. will this bill pay me the 100 extra a month and back since 1998 when I retired

  18. Although I am not yet 60 and no longer work for the Fire Department, I paid into Texas Municipal Retirement System for 15 years, and ALSO paid into Social Security. Just because I was smart enough and diligent in saving what was allowed to match my employer contributions at my workplace does not give the government the right to decrease my social security benefits.
    I paid it in, and I deserve it paid back.

  19. This is an inadequate peace offering. Has anybody heard latest on either S.521 (Senate) or H.R. 141 (House)? Where do they stand as of today?

    1. You can always check on our website ssfairness.org and find a link at the top to see how the repeal bills are doing. They continue to get co-signers.

  20. This needs to be completely repealed. Like all above, I paid in to the system and want my full share. I count on this as well.

  21. I have written many times to Ohio’s rep., sen, and congress members re: this terrible unfair WEP rule. Soc. Sec. is a federal program and everyone nationwide should be treated the same. I believe there are only 6 or 7 states that have this ridiculous rule. I only wish we had someone that could present a bill to be voted on at election time to have all elected government representatives, senators and congress to cut their pay at least by one half and take away their free medical and all the perks they have. Let them pay for all this just like we have to. I do not have enough quarters built up on my own work as I spent almost 30 years under civil service. However, my husband worked for almost 50 years paying into social security knowing I would be getting a soc. sec. check monthy… WRONG!!!! Someone is getting a monthly benefit check from what my husband paid into soc. sec. but it certainly is not me. I believe everyone that is affected by this unfair regulation should write their rep., senators, and congressmen on a monthly basis until they see we are serious and this problem needs fixed. Absolute repeal, not just a tweak to adjust the formula.

    1. Sandra, There are teachers in 15 states, public employees (police,fire, county and city workers) in 26 states and CSRS Federal employees all over the country. If you want to be our ssfairness representative to Ohio, send us a note at ssfairness@gmail.com.

  22. I have written Texas Senators many times, and called. The only response I get is “Thank you for contacting our office.” My widows benefits reduced to $12 per month, a loss of $1700 per month. I switched to my S S benefits and lost $200 per month. I need to go back to work, but am 69 and in pain, and no one has hired me. USA government is robbing citizens after they paid into social security. Where is our money?

  23. I call BS! Nothing short of total repeal is acceptable! We don’t need new formulas. We paid IN, we should get BACK! Give us total repeal, or take that $100 monthly rebate and make it retroactive!

  24. My SS is only $571. per month after they take out Medicare. This is unfair. How can someone live on this. Why are people that never paid in allowed to collect SS?

    1. Because there are people who are disabled who receive SSI, which isn’t part of the SS fund, plus there are those who are spouses who never worked in the labor force. Those people get a spouse’s or survivor’s benefit. So do minor children of deceased workers. Would it be fair to take from THEM? I don’t think so.

  25. The government has relied on the backs of those who always played by the rules and contributed. In return we have been screwed. There is no justice.

  26. Granted the 100 dollars would wipe out all but 19 bucks of my offset, Brady is wrong if he thinks the WEP was a good idea. It wasn’t. Most public employees are not getting huge pensions and need the Social Security payments they have earned. The WEP came into existence in a completely different era, where people worked for one employer their entire lives, hence the 30-year nonsense of “substantial earnings” to avoid the WEP penalty and the notion public employees were getting big pensions and didn’t need Social Security.

    1. Supposedly the national FOP is entering this fight, about time. There needs to be a unified effort to get this changed. To many groups doing their own thing.

  27. I lost over 450 on my SS , I contributed in non gov. Jobs for 21 years, and all of my ex husband ,s SS of 35 years! Gov off set! I get a total of 221 a month! , my pension is just a thousand dollars, it was 840 when I retired! I am now 71′ I can,t afford my home, have to sell, can,t work because of swelling ankles/ leg problems, how do you make car payments, mtg payments food and medicine off of 1200 a moth? So sorry I ever taught school! It discriminates against teachers,
    Policemen, and Firemen, postal workers etc. , but yet gov house, senate, military are exempt! Repeal this terrible bill that has crippled the old and poor!

  28. I have read H.R.3934. The new formula for the WEP need’s to be transparent . The $100.rebate need’s to be negotiated to help those that are already being affected .

  29. $100 a month? Is he joking? I just calculated that the government has has made a cool $41,850 from money I was cheated out of since I started collecting Social Security. I’m willing to let that go, to have the WEP COMPLETELY eliminated. But if you insist on giving me a mere $100 a month, I want back ALL of the money you stole!

  30. Roy Gallant says,

    20 plus years on the Maine State Police working 80 plus hours per week and getting paid for 40 hours says I earned my pension. I did not pay into social security in those years but then worked another 20 plus years on other jobs and paid full social security in those years.

    How is it that the government, knowing that I would only get 40% of my social security upon retirement and yet they TOOK 100 % out of my pay for all those latter years??? Bull crap– new Representatives and Senators needed. It isn’t hard to figure out it is mass fraud !

  31. Is there any hope for all of us that are getting RIPPED OFF BY IUR GOVERNMENT IS THIS ROBBERY PAYING FOR immigration

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