We have a new repeal bill.

Representative Rodney Davis from Illinois came through for us again! He introduced the Social Security Fairness Act on the very first day of the new session of Congress. It is H.R. 82.  As many of you know, every two years all the bills that haven’t been passed and signed into law have to be re-introduced with a new bill number. We had signatures from both parties and almost enough co-signers to force a vote in the House of Representatives last year.  This year we will get there!

Any “fixes,” short of repeal, that have been proposed have so many caveats that they end up introducing more inequities. And cause more confusion.  Just get rid of the Government Pension Offset and the Windfall Elimination Provision!

We already have 21 co-signers — get your Representative on that list!

Call or email your elected Member of Congress. Find them at www.house.gov, and put their number on your speed dial.

Ask them to co-sign the new bill to repeal the Government Pension Offset and the Windfall Elimination Provision because it affects YOU!

Tell them some of these facts they may not be aware of:

  • The offsets affect people who have fully earned Social Security retirement or spousal benefits.
  • Both the GPO and the WEP cause lower income people to lose a larger percentage of their retirement income than they do for wealthier retirees.
  • Currently, more than half a million retirees lose ALL their earned spousal and survivor benefits because of the GPO.
  • The cost to repeal both the GPO and the WEP is less than 2% of what Social Security pays out in benefits every year.
  • The law requiring public employers to inform new employees that the offsets might affect their Social Security only became law in January, 2005. Many people still don’t understand the cuts to their benefits that are coming. 

58 Comments

  1. I’m 74. Sure didnt think it would ever happen in my lifetime, but if will help those after me I will def help. I’m not stopping now. I’ve been trying since 2009.

    1. At the top of our webpage is a link to congress.gov. Go to co-signers for that bill. On the right, you can “sort alphabetical by state.”

  2. It would be beneficial to have a link to the states representatives. It would increase the number of people who would contact them if it was right there on the action alert. Other organizations do this, why don’t you?

    1. We don’t have individual links because there are 435 Members of Congress. Congress.gov has easy links to all. I have my Rep. on my cell phone, with your suggestion I will put her email on there, also. Thanks.

  3. I have e-mailed both of Maine’s representatives in the house urging them to support this bill.

  4. PLEASE……remember how much we’ve given to get so little…..when my beloved husband, Tom, died last year I lost not only my own Social Security, but I also lost his hard-earned Social Security….100% of it ! My LAUSD pension is not large and I now have to live on such a tight budget that I’ve gone back to teaching full-time at age 76!
    Please don’t forget me……..Judi Welch, California

  5. PLEASE……remember how much we’ve given to get so little…..when my beloved husband, Tom, died last year I lost not only my own Social Security, but I also lost his hard-earned Social Security….100% of it ! My LAUSD pension is not large and I now have to live on such a tight budget that I’ve gone back to teaching full-time at age 76!
    Please don’t forget teachers like me……

  6. Will this New Bill help those like me who retired in March 1989 and have had WEP steal 32 yrs of of Earned Social Security? Will it stop for me and countless Police Officers from having their Social Security taken from them?

  7. 33 % —–7 out 21 are Repulicans, so far . Yippee. 0 for my state–but we had 3/4 on 141.

  8. The WEP and GPO has definitely hit me hard. I served in active military service and the Army Ready Reserves; spent 25 years serving our active duty military, veteran and family populations in the VA Hospital and as a claims examiner. I suffered a hardship when my children’s dad died due to relocation, was given an involuntary reduction-in-force relocation while searching for a new federal job in the state where my children were raised, unable to find a job because the relocation area was under a RIF. Was not given my reduction-in-force parameters or the impact to my benefits because I had 27 plus years of service with my military time. I shortly after his death started searching for employment in private industry where I worked for over 16 years until my chronic health issues impacted me and required me to terminate my private industry job because I was given the initial time off without pay but was not able to return as planned due to pending surgery on both hands, medication treatment for my diabetes, and enrollment in a treatment program for weight management requiring weekly time away from work that my work schedule could not accommodate without termination after leave without pay. I attended training to help myself become employable after surgery to possibly work from home. I completed my certifications only to learn that I needed to be working in the field for a period of time before I could work from home. I sought employment for a couple of years and coped with sick and dying spouse and my own health issues. I also suffered from low potassium for 2 plus years related to prescribed blood pressure medications. During my search for employment, I would present with my walker and because of my age and my disability, I was interviewed but not selected for the positions.

    As a result of my situation, I accepted a reduction when I took the involuntary RIF, and again when I turned 62. I worked under the CSRS program and was not told I could repay CSRS for my military time which was 2 years and 11 months and it would not have caused a reduction in my pension of $438.00. I also, was not aware that my deceased spousal benefits from my first husband who paid into social security for over 36 years would be forfeited after the 2/3 reduction for the Government Pension Offset. The rules are deceptive and Social Security information is deceptive for military service members. There is no way for you to know or understand your benefits unless you pay a financial advisor. Social Security representatives either do not know or have been advised not to properly counsel those who pay into social security for so many years so they understand the reductions. I was told when I talked to a knowledgeable social security representative that I would receive approximately $1700 to $1800 monthly from my deceased 1st spouse who died at 55 years of age and never drew one penny of social security. I never applied for benefits under him until I was 65 1/2 years old and only then due to my health. In the award letter I received, I was told I would receive $900 plus from my deceased spouse and $500 plus from my own work and that these benefits would be paid in two separate payments monthly. I received at least 15 pieces of correspondence with a bunch of meaningless and mingled calculations and no benefits that matched what I was to receive monthly. I am still not resolved that my benefits are being paid correctly.

    My 2nd spouse who is deceased was receiving $1628 social security benefits but I as told I had no entitlement under him. He became disabled and drew workman’s compensations for years until he reached social security age and then it was converted to social security. I had to place him in care for a year before his death and paid some $6000 monthly for his care. I never drew benefits as his spouse because we married after I turned 62 and I was still working until 65 years of age.

    I am not opposed to forfeiting a portion of my and my 1st spouse’s hard earned benefits but I don’t think social security should take over $3766 of these benefits and leave me in a hardship situation when $500 of those benefits would help me to maintain my home, car, food, and health needs at the age of 70 and I would not need to continue to search for employment when I don’t feel well.

    Furthermore, I did not realize you could preplan your disability so you could apply for it at 62 years of age. Preplan your marriages so you could pay benefits to spouses but you did not contribute the level of money being paid out, this not only includes social security paid to a current living spouse which is half of what you receive, children, parents, spouses. This could be the real reason social security is not sustainable. And then, when the American public was not educated on social security, the system was used as a loop hole to rob itself of benefits but in a so called legal method.

    I have spent 4 plus years trying to understand the functioning of this system and have concluded that volumes and volumes of add-ons have been made years in advance and only brought out when most convenient. This is not what we elect our presidents, senators, congressmen, representatives (men and women) to do. Neither do we elect them to go to Washington or anywhere else to become liars and deceivers. Just stick to the original Constitution of the United States of America this Country was established under a just and good all the time Spiritual God. Stick to the plan, it will reveal itself over and over again to those good and godly men who follow the principles.

    1. You note is a perfect description of how dysfunctional our system is. So unfair to you–and your husbands. I hope at some point this gets resolved, especially for people who are hit as hard as you are.

  9. I support and end to this uneven treatment of those who are eligible for social security and not receiving it because STATE law is denying them a FEDERAL program. I am one who paid into social security for 32 years and was married for 11 years to someone who paid into the program.

    This really has to end.

  10. I really hope the Social Security Fairness Act will finally be passed. I believe that the majority of people do not understand what WEP and GPO really mean. In my case, because I have a tiny pension from public school teaching. I then taught at a private college that does not have a state pension, but earned Social Security. I did not know that both my own and my spousal benefits would be so drastically changed. If I were to outlive my husband, I would not be eligible for his benefit and would have to make ends meet on a $4000/YEAR Social Security payment, my own under the current policy. Not only have I lost several hundred on my own but also my spousal benefits. It seems cruel and unfair and needs to be fixed. Please, after all these years, do it now!

    1. I’m in a very similar situation. But in my case I never had a spouse nor children. My pension is very low and most of my social security earnings were mostly taken away. They werent that much anyway but to me even an extra $300 a month is a lot. I had to leave my apartment in San Franciso this past May and move back to Missouri after 50 years in my beloved SF since I couldnt afford it any more. I worked so hard in very challenging inner city schools and my pension is barely livable even here in Missouri. And my health has been greatly compromise so I have little energy to take action steps to try to spread the word about WEP and GPO. But I’m looking for a group of people (like ourselves) who would either make phone calls, write letters or even just spread the word to friends and family. But these days people are so overwhelmed and also worried about their own kids Soc. Security that they may not want to possibly jeapardize their own kid’s futures by innitiating that 2% cost to repeal. People of course look out for themselves and I can understand that. It’s just this was money WE PAID INTO. I just want to be educated on what to say to build some support when I forward this email to people who are not affected by WEP and GPO. It’s firefighters and cops too….. right?

    2. I hear you! Yes most people don’t know. Seems if it doesn’t affect them, don’t care. We need to start assuring that active teachers know this BEFORE they even enter the profession.

    3. You are so right. I have my civil service retirement from working for USPostalService. But I worked before that making peanuts. And then when I retired I returned to work to increase my S.S. Because I knew I would not be able to collect any on my husbands. He predeceased me and I cannot get a cent of his SS. Had I worked for anyone other than the federal gov. This would not happen.

  11. Have you ever consider this issue from the perspective of the public employee’s working spouse? Below is a copy of my comments to both of my Representatives from the State of Maine.

    My husband is a retired firefighter who gets a public pension; and, therefore, is not entitled to full social security benefits. Rules about public employees and social security benefits deprive my husband of the full benefits to which he has otherwise earned.
    THOSE RULES ALSO DEPRIVE ME (AS A WORKING SPOUSE) Of THE FULL SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS I HAVE OTHERWISE EARNED. Unlike other spouses on social security, I am not able to give my husband half of my monthly benefits. He will not be entitled to any of my social security benefits, should I die first. I worked for my social security benefits- just like others; and I should enjoy the peace and comfort of being able to share them with my spouse JUST LIKE OTHER recipients who are not married to public employees. Please support GPO/WEP Repeal Bill HR82

  12. Can we find out if then-Senator Biden signed on to the Social Security Fairness bill? That would seem to be key.

    1. Biden didn’t sign onto Dianne Feinstein’s bills in 2003 or 2005 before he was Vice President. Obama did. Biden finally signed on when he was running for VP with Obama. I think Jill will be on him if he doesn’t support it this year. It is in the Dem platform.

  13. I was not informed that my social security would be drastically reduced when I began my library job in 2000. My husband passed away in 2014 so I am on my own now. I worked in retail for 20 plus years before my library job and paid into social security and my husband paid into social security his whole life. As the law stands my social security will be drastically reduced and very possibly eliminated completely when I retire and take my pension. Please repeal GPO and WEP so we don’t have to live in poverty. I have been waiting and praying for so long about this.

  14. I noticed that not one Colorado representative has co-sponsored this bill yet, even though Colorado retirees are heavily and negatively impacted by GPO & WEP. I have contacted my Colorado representative. I hope other Coloradans also contact theirs. So far, I’m pleased to see the bipartisan co-sponsorship of this bill. It doesn’t matter whether your representative is Democrat or Republican. Please contact them and ask them to become a co-sponsor.

  15. Thank you for a good summary. Which states’ representatives have already co-sponsored the bill?

  16. I need you to support HR 82 by co signing this new bill to repeal govt pension offset and the windfall elimination provision
    The cost is less than 2 % of what SS pays out in benefits every yr !
    I worked my entire life and I’m being penalized for this !!! Support the hard working Americans !!!

  17. Please, please, all pray that this time around we see a correction. If billions are going to foreign nations, how about throwing in retro as well.

  18. Thank you for this information. I just e-mailed Congresswomen Marcia Fudge to cosign this HR 82.

  19. Please correct the email link. http://www.house.gov goes to a list on a page where none of the links work! I have Googled “How to find my representatives in the House” (or in Congress). Nope. As usual, all the government links are dead in the water. This one works: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members. Please send out a new link if you want us who are victims of WEP to take action! This unfair bill must be repealed now. I contributed to Social Security most of my working life, but the 8 part time years where I worked in a community college wreaked havoc on my retirement. I am being dinged for life because of those years.

  20. Perhaps we could get support from Mrs. Biden. That might have an impact on getting it out to the public.

  21. I support repeal of the WEP/GPO for all retirees of TRS, whose majority of employees have previously earned their SS quarters, including Police, Firefighter’s, etc. We should never have been selected to suffer these unfair cuts to our SS pension. Pensions that were earned, and we qualify to receive benefits on, should not be cut just because we work for someone else who has their own pension system. They are not going to pay us a pension for the time we didn’t work for them. Each pension covers the time period you worked under that pension program. Repeal WEP/GPO and give back what we paid for. Thank You Rodney Davis for H.R 82. Let’s get to work making phone calls…we need to start now. I won’t ever quit. This is too important, and it is unfair to us, and will be to you, if it isn’t repealed.

  22. This would be great! Does it apply to those of us already retired and getting both?
    I do hope so.My SS was cut from749.00 to249.00 due to windfall

  23. Will this apply to current retirees? I do hope do. My SS check went from 749.00 to 249.00 due to windfall. Shameful, because it was money I put into the system.

  24. Those two bills have cost me about $6000 a year for the last 12 years I think they should be dropped and reparations paid to those who are cheated out of benefits that they paid for. The big guy that pushed it through namely Rostenkowski retired with four pensions while he screwed everybody else out of their rightful benefits.

  25. I have been affected by the WEP WEP since March of 1989 I have been retired over 31 years. Initially I was getting a little over $1,400 a month under web it dropped a $555 a month that’s darn near $900 a month for the last 31 years it doesn’t take much to figure out that 12 * 900 * 31 that isn’t some small chunk of change. I’ve had to hold down part-time jobs and even a full-time job until I turn 70 which has just been recently it isn’t fair. Us to have to lose our lifetime earned benefits because of something that the government thought was necessary. Less than 2% Social Security what they pay out would be lost if they repealed wet and government pension offset.

  26. 22 years of paying into social security and 22 years of teaching in public education has earned me the biggest penalty. i still don’t understand why there’s a PENALTY. Why a penalty? I paid into SS as an investment in my future. I will really need it combined with my teaching pension to survive. I am single. It’s pure robbery. I’ve been supporting these efforts to overturn the WEP for years.

  27. For twenty years after the death of my beloved spouse I have struggled with life issues and finances! My spousal As benefits were either mom existent or greatly reduced! I am now in my 89th year of life! We tried before many times!!

  28. In the spirit of fairness to Workers and Survivors who have either earned or deserve to receive Social Security benefits, please vote to pass this bill, finally.
    Thank you!

  29. I did write my Congressman Brad Sherman in District 30. I told him how much money I loose every month ($400) because of this law. I urged him to be a co signer on this Bill and I told him how important it was to me. President Biden wants to repeal this unjust law but it has to pass both Houses of Congress first. Let this be the year!

  30. When my husband dies, after being married to him for 60 years, I would receive 00$ from his social Security benefit under the present law. This is so unfair . Because I worked for the Postal Service , I am not qualified to receive what the rest of the work force across the nation receives.

  31. Social Security was taken in FULL from our checks each pay period. I’m retired military 33 years and civil servant for 41 years and to received a pittance of $222 monthly (reduced due to last years income tax returns) is criminal. Many of us serve or have served our country in many ways is so very unfair. Don’t make this another year with nothing being done. Let’s get this repealed and make it fair.

  32. The Federal Legislators are always afraid that the so-called “Social Security Trust Fund” would be depleted if GPO/WEP is enacted into Public Law. The truth is that the Social Security Trust Fund has been co-mingled with the General Fund many years ago – there is NO trust fund..! Now that the COVID-19 and successor viruses have become a pandemic, some people on Social Security are dying – their Social Security payments stop. Some people die from COVID-19 or even unrelated causes (accidents, sudden deaths such as heart attacks or strokes, etc. before even starting to receive Social Security payments – their share is never paid-out. Enacting H. R. 82 and abolishing GPO/WEP will not deplete the “Trust Fund”. We need to publish a new “Sign the Petition” website to ask the Federal Legislators to endorse/support the abolishment of GPO/WEP. NOW is the time to get this momoentum going..!

    1. Hi George,
      The Trust Fund has been loaned to the Federal government which pays interest on that loan every year. That interest is what has been used to pay benefits until now when the interest payment isn’t enough to cover the payout. That is why the Trust fund is being depleted. Still no excuse for us not getting what we earned!!

  33. Please get this passed. I am affected by GPO and
    WEP. My late husband paid into Social Security his whole life and despite health issues continued working until age 62. He received 4 checks prior to his unexpected death. His check would have been approx. $1700 per month, I paid into social security until the last 16 years of my life and I get a County Pension and My Social Security check has been cut too so I receive “$208 per month. It seems the government is handing out money but not taking care of us seniors who are in the last years of our live and are asking no more that to receive what we paid into the system. I can’t even maintain my old house, and it’s getting harder and harder to get by. PLEASE! Someone help us!

  34. I am teacher paying into TRS since 2006. My husband died in 2015, and I will receive spousal benefits. Because of my pension, I will lose around 1000.00 per month because of the GPO. I paid into Social Security on my own account for 30 years, but I will never see a dime of that because of the WEP. What about this is fair? My post-retirement income will not allow me to stay in my house and live comfortably. I don’t know what I am going to do.

  35. Hello, I have been writting my Senators and US Reps since 1995 to repeal the WEP and GPO offsets.
    I usually get a RUBBER stamped form letter response thanking me for my concerns. They never
    address the content of my letters. They are not affected by these 2 discriminatory and criminal
    SS laws so they let the BIlls die every year in the House and Ways committees. This new party as well as the previous ones are only concerned with giving our tax dollars to foreign countries and not the US retired seniors.

  36. To the Texas legislators and state senators . Please pas the bill to eliminate the WEP AND GOP PROVISIONS. Or at least reconsider to give us back at least 80% of what we earned on our pension for those that worked and paid into S.S.. before we became teachers . Regardless if worked under 20 years . This has been a highway robbery for to long and WEP/GOP NEED TO BE REPEALED .

  37. I am a professional educator in Ct for over 33 years and also like many had to work 2-3 jobs my entire adult life and paid into social security. Why in the world should I be penalized for contributions I made and benefits I have earned. It’s pure robbery and seriously unfair. Please fix this

  38. I have contacted John Cornyn, my representative many times. He has never offered any support, or meaningful suggestions, on how to help those of us who are struggling to find ways to live on our drastically reduced SS due to the GPO/WEP. He does support the reduction, however, and will until SS is totally secure, as if that could ever, possibly, be proven by anyone. And I am wondering what he is doing to help SS be secure.
    I retired from my position as a ParaPro at 70, and I am barely able to get by on what I receive from TRS and SS. After the deduction for Part B from my SS, I get $314. I also get $788. from my TRS pension and $283. from my deceased husband’s TRS pension (he passed away at 48 yrs). When my month doesn’t include a property tax bill…(8 mo. I do make payments..some months 2 properties)…or an insurance bill…(don’t have any month that doesn’t have at least 4…and several have 5-6 in the same month). I do get rent off one property I inherited, but the rent hardly covers the cost of keeping it up. The senior citizen that lives there could not stay if I raised the rent. However, taxes keep spiraling. Everyone gets cost of living raises but us, including my income tax preparer. I have a part time job doing private home care for children with special needs, and as long as I am able to, I will continue. I can’t depend on my income from this, because my health is declining, and I am subject to the times that meets the needs of the client.
    The real problem is that those of us who earned our quarters, and at 65 or 66 reached the age they could receive their SS benefits, and did receive them… would have continued to get them if we didn’t retire from TRS later on. At retirement, our SS was reduced by 2/3’s. When we were paying into SS, back in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s… nothing was said to us about ‘double dipping’, and then someone in the 90’s got this idea for the WEP/GPO and it got through and passed with promises that were later misused..leading to robbing Peter (retirees) to pay Paul
    (other government debt). These are two of the most unfair propositions that ever passed, and they need to be repealed. Retirees are the new poverty class of citizens. We are unable to truly retire, and no one can work until death. Repeal the WEP/GPO now. We have waited too long to get what we worked, and paid for, and were promised, and have been cheated out of. When you have to feed and house the homeless, hungry, and sick, elderly people that you have, and will be seeing more of, soon, under bridges, dying…it will be too late to change what “should never have happened”. Please don’t let this happen! Please think about your family when you decide the future of our country’s retired people. And if you are pleased with your retirement pension, and aren’t worried about anyone else…well just remember how we were also satisfied, until someone came along, and took our promise away.

  39. Please consider this. I’m a retired teacher. My husband passed away in 2006, and I can’t receive any of his SS. He worked for that, and our family deserves to get something.

  40. I am a federal government employee under FERS, a Navy vet, and I have nearly 38 years of contributions into SSA. I had a work related injury which left me disabled. Permanent & total. This means I’m going to be like this for the rest of my life. I am SSDI approved but can’t get what contributed to SSDI via SSA This is whole offset entirely unfair for those of us who contributed directly into the system.

  41. I have contacted my representative in California, Judy Chu.
    I will fight this good fight together with all of you good people!

  42. I wrote a long comment yesterday about the unfairness of WEP and my personal story. Why hasn’t it been posted?

    1. Hi Robert,
      I can’t find your comment. WordPress forwards comments to ssfairness@gmail.com, and I have looked on their site as well as on gmail, and I can’t find it. I know that is annoying because it takes emotional energy to write about this. If you are up for it, I am looking for detailed comments–time working, type of work, number of years retired and $ lost. I am so sorry we lost your first statement. Bonnie

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