Alert #113 The Scorecard 1

The Scorecard:  GPO/WEP Progress So Far This Year

THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR SOCIAL SECURITY FAIRNESS! Keep making our case to everyone you know.

We are halfway through the current legislative session–“the 116th Congress.” This Congressional session and the bills so far introduced continue through 2020. Here is a quick look at the bills that could affect the Social Security offsets. Please call or email your Senators and House Members and send them a thank you or a reminder to co-sponsor if they haven’t yet done so.

The Repeal Bills (click on blue links for more information):

H.R. 141 Social Security Fairness Act

Introduced by Representative Rodney Davis (R) of Illinois

Currently has 235 co-sponsors: 180 Democrats, 55 Republicans

Would stop the application of the offsets to already retired persons as well as to  future retirees.


S. 521 Social Security Fairness Act

Introduced by Senator Sherrod Brown (D) of Ohio

Social Security Fairness Act

Currently has 36 co-sponsors: 30 Democrats, 4 Republicans, 2 Independents

Would stop the application of the offsets to already retired persons as well as to  future retirees. Companion to the House bill.

More than half the House of Representatives has signed onto the repeal bill, HR 141, and many have also signed onto the WEP change bills. We need to put more pressure on our SENATORS to REPEAL, not just change BOTH offsets!

Bills to modify only the Windfall Elimination Penalty:

H.R. 3934 Equal Treatment of Public Servants Act

Introduced by Kevin Brady (R) of Texas

Currently has 43 co-sponsors:  40 Republicans, 3 Democrats

Uses a different formula to calculate the windfall, taking into account years of covered and non-covered Social Security income. Would not re-calculate benefits of persons already retired.  They would receive an extra $100 per month and $50 for spouse.

H.R. 4540  Public Servants Protection and Fairness Act

Introduced by Richard Neal (D) Chairperson of the Ways and Means Committee

Currently has 79 Cosponsors: 77 Democrats, 2 Republicans

(similar to H.R. 3934) Uses a different formula to calculate the windfall, taking into account years of covered and non-covered Social Security income. Would not re-calculate benefits of persons already retired.  They would receive an extra $150 per month.

Bill to expand Social Security benefits for all retirees.

H.R. 860 Social Security 2100 Act

Introduced by John Larson (D) Connecticut

Currently has 208 Co-sponsors, all Democrats

Would increase retirement benefits as well as contributions to Social Security retirement funds. Does not currently affect GPO/WEP.  There is an campaign to add repeal of both offsets to this bill.


47 Comments

  1. $500 a month difference to what I should be entitled to and what I am told that I will receive will determine how i can live “My Golden Years”

    I have worked hard, two jobs for most of my life and now I am told that I am screwed because of this “double dipping”. It should not matter how many pensions that I hit from seeing that I was paying into SS all along.

    The big shame of all this is how many people who did not work in this country that are collecting from MY pension fund.

  2. I’ve been hearing this for years. Plenty of co-sponsors but never even gets out of committee. What are you going to do about that. There is no excuse. Just lip service.

  3. After years of fighting SS they finally agreed to stop GPO, but would not even consider stopping WEP (the most important as it takes much more money out of my check than GPO). In my opinion, both WEP and GPO is fraud. We earned the money and they “borrowed it.” Retirees have been closely watching them to see if they will do what they promised. Money still hasn’t been returned to retirees. I watched the last meeting of the year of the WAYS & MEANS COMMITTEE on closed circuit TV and the chairman casually mentioned to the members that they were going to have to deal with the WEP/GPO issue soon! This was obviously a blatant lie as this was 2 years ago and nothing has ever been

  4. I agree with what Mr. Dictenberg said. I taught for thirty-five years, I had some hope it would be changed before I retired. I can’t speak to how hard our retirement reps work, becasue all I know is what the send to read. I know our government officials don’t care how unfair it is, they are interested in the wealthy people so they get their reward for supporting them. However, I think our biggest problem is the teachers do not fight hard for the teaching profession as a whole. We have too many women teachers who have husbands with huge pensions, so why fight for a little SS!!

  5. I myself would take a weekend and Pickett the White House for the publicity. We need a large turnout so everyone stick together to show we are serious!!

    1. Everyone needs to let their representatives and senators know how strongly we feel about the repeal and how badly we are being hurt by the current GPO/WEP! We paid into SS and should get full benefits. Much of our benefits are taken away while others who have not worked one day in their life earn benefits off their spouses. Remind them that your vote matters!

    2. I totally agree, Jay! Albert Einstein is credited as saying “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” That’s exactly what we have been doing for years. We’ve been writing, calling, and/or meeting with our elected officials for years and nothing changes. I’m willing to spend the time and money to see if a march in DC would change our results.

  6. What is the hold up? Fair is fair. I paid into this program like everyone else was required to do. Too many people my age do no realize that the government is cheating a part of the country’s workers who worked in the “service” areas of society! Step up and speak out!!

  7. It is about time to do something. The workers who have put in S.S. should be able to collect. The congress should get off their duffs and do the right thing. If it applied too them this would have been corrected 20 years ago.

  8. Both Senators from Virginia, Kaine and Warner refuse to support repealing WEP…
    They won’t even listen to First Responders….

  9. Do any of these address that “as a public school teacher, I have no survivor benefies from SSA should my husband die?”

  10. I’m all up for the picketing. This is crazy. I’m not retired professional social worker. Never make it to the end of month with food and gas. Forget any extras

  11. Help me and others in similar situations. Congress and Social Security Administration has not only taken all my survivor benefits, $438.00 of my own work benefits, and all survivor benefits of spouse #2 I married at 61 years of age and who is now deceased; but, have also placed me in a hole because of changes in the tax laws where I can’t claim deductions on my home or other deductions because of my benefits and not able to work due to my health and inability to secure employment and because of my age. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize I could preplan my disability at age 62 and my total inability to work at 65 due to chronic illnesses. The 2 holders of my and many other women who have raised children and taken care of two military husbands through death and buried them in dignity now must suffer but have money on the table that has been taken through legal laws instituted in a country that prides itself on being just to those who have served in the military. I not only served on active duty for my country but committed my public service dually by serving in the us army reserves providing readiness in case of military need and teaching ROTC trainees to serve in a committed role to protect our country. It is noted that in less than 1 year, Social Security Administration changed the years of paying into the system from 30 to 35 years. I served in a public service role for 28 years and due to a reduction in force and my years of work was involuntarily forced to accept early retirement while out of state for a funeral and other mitigating circumstances that caused a life altering change in my life and the lives of my two underage children at the time of their dad’s death. I went on to work for another 18 years in private sector until my health failed me. That’s 43 years total. Even though I paid into a government retirement, I am being penalized but according to social security administration the $1075 reported on my earning statement and not calculated with my active duty military service nor my reserve earnings and earned during a time with no affiliation to federal service have been reduced due to a WEP that has nothing to do with my federal employment.

  12. I’ve contacted both of my senators. Neither is on board. One sent me a form letter thanking me for writing and did not address the issue. The other said that he would only consider it as a part of total social security reform, which is really scary.

  13. I have been getting these emails for sometime now and nothing happens talk talk talk. We have been cheated by this government that is supposed to represent us –the big lie— We paid into this government ponzi scheme (SS) give us what is ours!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. LOOK AT ALL OF THE INSIGNIFICANT BILLS WHICH HAVE BEEN PASSED THIS YEAR……NONE AS IMPORTANT AS THE WEP REPEAL BILLS. THEY WILL NEVER DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT.

  15. seriously, my SS was cut $2808.00 a year the day i retired. In 2019 it went up $1.00 a month, and now i’ve been notified that in 2020 it will go up an additional $1.00 a month. If the govt is in so sad of a shape that they’re passing out one dollar bills something is terribly wrong. I can get no opponent of the SS fairness act to explain their opposition. Why is that?m

  16. Het rid of every sitting senators pension program and let them only collect SS. Then see what actions get taken!

  17. Get rid of every sitting senators pension program and let them only collect SS. Then see what actions get taken!

  18. A lot of talk and no action……widows and teachers know all about that….do you hear the candidates mention it …..NO they don’t………so I really don’t believe any legislation will ever proceed and if so we will all be long gone…….

    1. Janet…I could not agree more…no one really cares about teachers or retired teachers…

    2. As a retired teacher, who was eligible with the 40 quarters I paid into S.S. in the private sector, and fighting for the injustice of this for years, I am totally disgusted with the injustice. Only important to us, not them ? All talk and no action. I’m getting old, I’ll never see it.

    3. Actually, Elizabeth Warren has the repeal of these 2 laws on her website.

      https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/social-security

      PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS
      My plan also ensures that public sector workers like teachers and police officers get the full Social Security benefits they’ve earned.

      If you work in the private sector and earn a pension, you’re entitled to your full pension and your full Social Security benefits in retirement. But if you work in state or local government and earn a pension, two provisions called the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset can reduce your Social Security benefits. WEP slashes Social Security benefits for nearly 1.9 million former public-sector workers and their families, while GPO reduces –– and in most cases, eliminates –– spousal and survivor Social Security benefits for 700,000 people, 83% of whom are women.

      My plan repeals these two provisions, immediately increasing benefits for more than two million former public-sector workers and their families, and ensuring that every current state and local government employee will get the full Social Security benefits they’ve earned.

  19. It’s time to prioritize this; It doesn’t make sense to withhold our earnings. This should relieve some of the pension reform strategies by taking away obstacles which allow people to draw down their earnings. I have to work longer under my pension as I will lose earnings due to the offset.

  20. I applaud the effort and dedication of all the folks who refuse to let this issue die. I’m fed-up, discouraged and mad as hell but I do find solace in our brothers in this fight who refuse to let this issue go. When one gets tired and discouraged we must have more willing to step up. If we keep pressing congress we will experience a break through. Moses wondered in the wilderness for 40 years therefore we have a ways to go! Keep-up-the-fight!!!

  21. It makes me so sad that these bills never get further than being introduced to the House. Why can’t something be done? It isn’t fair now and was not fair then. I along with many others need this money which is rightfully ours. Every time I see an update I get so excited that it might be happening only to be let down again. We are ready for some action on this Bill!

  22. I’d like to see them repeal the changes made years ago where government workers, teachers and Railroad workers only get about 1/3 of what others would get according to what was paid in. This was done many years ago to “save” Social Security from going broke. It was passed saying these people who had worked under a pension system and under had at some point worked also under Social Security at a previous or later job could not collect both even if they had paid into both. The government called it “double dipping”, but for most it means their paid into pension is less because they worked fewer years under the pension system while spending some of their working years under Social Security. Neither of these sources of income are that high because of a sorter pay-in time so these people need and earned full Social Security benefits at they level they paid into it for. Only getting 1/3 of what any other employees can get paid. They use their social Security payments to pay for their Medicare like everyone else and should have the right to collect under the same rules and standards of everyone else. Add this to a Bill or writ a new one to include this and help these three groups of people who are not being treated the same as the rest of Americans.

  23. PLEASE PUBLISH AND TELL US “WHEN” THE BILLS WILL BE VOTED ON FOR THE REPEAL OF WEP ? TELL US WHAT THE HOLD UP IS ? —— WHY PUBLISH ARTICLES AS SUCH ABOVE WITH OUT TELLING US WHAT / WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE VOTED ON AND BY WHOM ? GEEEZZZ—-I – WE’VE BEEN HEARING THIS FOR A LOOOONG TIME—IT’S PAST DUE TIME FOR SSF & THE OTHER PARTIES RESPONSIBLE TO GET IT DONE !!!!!

  24. The problem here is the WEP was put in during the Reagan years as a way to help shore up Social Security’s finances as to help prevent the anticipated “shortfall” in the program when the baby boom generation started to collect it assuming the pessimistic scenario about economic growth came to pass. I would think raising the cap higher would help offset it, but it hasn’t been proposed as a way to further WEP repeal. Until there is a way to “pay” for WEP repeal, repeal is not going to happen. I don’t see GPO ever being repealed, however.

  25. I should live so long as to see this happen…all talk all of the time…no one really seems to care about retired teachers…

  26. We have been playing this game with Congress for THIRTY SEVEN YEARS! I am sooooo tired of waiting for Congress to fix this, and they NEVER WILL!!
    I have permission from SSA to SUE Congress in Federal District Court, but I can’t find anyone who will give me legal support. I KNOW the WEP is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and I can PROVE it in court. Why don’t you find someone to help me file my case in the California Eastern District Court, and WHEN I win my case, THEY WILL FORCE CONGRESS TO DUMP THIS BAD LAW! You MUST have some lawyers around there who could help me! I need to file my case within 60 days or I will forfeit my right to sue! PLEASE HELP ME TAKE MY CASE TO COURT! Please contact me SOON!
    Thank you,
    Matthew Post

    1. Hi Matthew, Bill here. Have you tried any legal aid foundations, societies, or some organizations who do Pro-Bono work? I am with you time to take action. I thought about a class action law suit where we all work together and file with the courts. I just don’t know how to do that. Google maybe???? I just keep calling all Senators and Representatives every chance I get to keep them aware of this discrimination and that the repeal needs to happen now!
      How did you get permission from the SSA to sue congress? Good idea congress needs to held accountable for embezzlement of the SS trust fund. Their discrimination of those who contributed, and the lame attempt to fix SS with the GPO, WEP. How can I help?

    2. THIS A TOTAL RIPOFF !!!!!!!!!!!! AND THEY DO NOT GIVE A SHOOT. THEY WANT THE MONEY …..BOTTOM LINE …. GIVE THE MONEY FOR WEAPONS . WHAT A DAM DIRTY DISGRACE!!!!!!!11

  27. Been working since I was 16 and no one ever told me that if I become a teacher at the age of 45 I was going to lose over half of the Social Security Benefits I worked for almost 30 years.
    Can someone explain the legalities of this?

    1. WE NEED HELP !! THERE MUST BE A WAY SOMEHOW . TO GET OUR FAIR SHAKE BACK . WE ALL PAID IN FAITHFULLY. THIS IS JUST OUTRAGE BY OUR GOVERNMENT!!!! WE NEED TO MAKE THIS KNOWN TO ALL AMERICA . HOW WE ARE BEING CHEATED OUT OF OUR EARNINGS.. THAT WE ALL WORKED SO HARD AND HONESTLY FOR….

  28. Bypass the Congress “women & men”, bypass the Senate, bypass the House-LOL— and send our concerns straight to President Donald Trump. “IF THIS IS POSSIBLE!” ALL of these other do nothing politicians are just that—they are going to do NOTHING with regards to honestly supporting, presenting and voting to repeal WEP & GPO. Our real only possible chance would be if President Trump got behind it.—-just my 2 cents worth.

  29. LISTEN FOLKS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. AS LONG AS THE SENATE IS REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED THIS BILL IS DEAD AND I MEAN DEAD ON ARRIVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REST OUR CASE. SO FORGET ABOUT BEING FAIR ….NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!

  30. I support total repeal of these unfair provisions. $100 or even $150 a month does not seem right considering the amount of money I’ve already lost that I will never get back because of the WEP.

  31. Rodney Davis has submitted bills on SSI unfairness since 2013/14. Like Viet Nam and agent orange the House and no Ways will keep holding these bills until few of us are left.
    Notice the co-sponsors jumping on this year, Election Year.
    Our representatives are working very hard to stop robo calls as it affects them, nice. Kevin Brady is taking on the SSI unfairness, who’s next in line.
    If I didn’t perform in the following career fields, fighter and cargo aircraft would not fly(Ground Power), Shipyard manufactured parts delayed(Industrial Electronics Repair) and patients lives could of been jeopardized(Medical Equipment Tech). Why aren’t our elected officials held accountable?
    Non citizens collect full SSI, disabled collect full SSI but government, teachers, police & fire workers are penalized for career choices who earn SSI before or after their government careers. Teachers, unbelievable.
    Just venting,

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