Important, Strategic Action Needed       You can help now!

Social Security support groups are beginning to align their messages toward making the Social Security system stronger and fairer.  Right now is a perfect time to tell these groups that in order to make the system fair to all, the Government Pension Offset (GPO) and the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) must be repealed!

Please use the quick links below to make your statement. We know we need to reach many more supporters! Can you suggest other groups which might support our cause?  Please email us at ssfairness@gmail.com.

Our last Alert inspired nearly 200 of you to click on the President’s message box.  Thank you! We critically need to build our ability to get noticed!  Have you saved your personal story on your desktop where it will be easy to send out again and again?   Below are some facts that you might include in your statement, followed by three groups that need to hear from us.

ACTION REQUESTED: Write the NCPSSM, the Alliance for Retired Americans and the ARRP, using your story and/or below listed facts.

  1. 1/5 of all public employees and 1/3 of all teachers risk being penalized by GPO/WEP in their retirement, losing some or all of the SS benefits for which they or their spouse paid the required SS taxes.  Currently more than 2 million Americans are penalized.
  2. It is possible to pay as much as $90,000 in SS taxes and receive not one dime in SS benefits, due to GPO and WEP.  GPO/WEP discriminate against women, often causing extreme hardship.   A pension of only $1,500/month can result in total loss of needed survivor benefits.
  3. GPO/WEP are called Heroes’ Penalties because they undeservedly punish teachers, school bus drivers, clerks, librarians, police, fire fighters and many more public servants.
  4. The GPO and WEP have caused much more damage to tax-paying individuals than would have been done by the recently proposed chained CPI, which was stalled last year due to vocal outrage.
  5. Seniors received no benefits from the recent economic stimulus efforts.  Giving us what we have earned would be a great way to get more money into local economies.
  6. Our Social Security benefits have been wrongly taken from us by the penalties of the GPO and WEP.  All senior support organizations must realize the degree to which the offsets penalize productive SS tax-paying citizens who have worked to serve their country.

LINKS

1. National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare (NCPSSM)  

This is a large, influential support group.  They have studied GPO/WEP and found that both provisions are unfair.

Here is a page where they ask for comments: http://www.ncpssm.org/EntitledtoKnow/entryid/2053/taking-a-social-security-victory-lap

2.  Alliance for Retired Americans

This group has branches in many states, often attracting retired union members.  Although their leadership understands our issue, many of them don’t know how unfair this is:   we or our spouses had no choice whether or not to pay FICA taxes,  most of us don’t have very big pensions, we weren’t warned about the penalties.  Let them know how this has hit you!

Contact them here:

http://retiredamericans.org/contact

3.  AARP

If you are a member of AARP, please write them about GPO/WEP again.

Here is an interesting link to their tool to help you decide what policy changes you would chose to close the Social Security funding gap.

http://www.aarp.org/work/social-security/info-06-2012/strengthen-social-security-youve-earned-a-say.html?intcmp=ADV-YEAS-SSST-BTN-TOP

If it has been two months since you have written your Congress Person and Senators about this issue, please write them again!

Thank you for sticking with this project!  We will keep making noise about this travesty.

 

 

 

 

8 Comments

  1. 1. 1/5 of all public employees and 1/3 of all teachers risk being penalized by GPO/WEP in their retirement, losing some or all of the SS benefits for which they or their spouse paid the required SS taxes. Currently more than 2 million Americans are penalized.
    2. It is possible to pay as much as $90,000 in SS taxes and receive not one dime in SS benefits, due to GPO and WEP. GPO/WEP discriminate against women, often causing extreme hardship. A pension of only $1,500/month can result in total loss of needed survivor benefits.
    3. GPO/WEP are called Heroes’ Penalties because they undeservedly punish teachers, school bus drivers, clerks, librarians, police, fire fighters and many more public servants.
    4. The GPO and WEP have caused much more damage to tax-paying individuals than would have been done by the recently proposed chained CPI, which was stalled last year due to vocal outrage.
    5. Seniors received no benefits from the recent economic stimulus efforts. Giving us what we have earned would be a great way to get more money into local economies.
    6. Our Social Security benefits have been wrongly taken from us by the penalties of the GPO and WEP. All senior support organizations must realize the degree to which the offsets penalize productive SS tax-paying citizens who have worked to serve their country.

  2. Please read the recent communication on the site for National Committee to Preserve Social security and Medicare. Many of us want to unite in a walk on Washington, class action suits, lobbying congressmen! etc. Why can’t the three major organizations pool their resources to gather a big enough group of people to demand a repeal of GPO/WEP. I have given money to all these organizations. Are you all working separately from each other on the same cause? Why not stop competing with each other about who can be the most effective voice for retirees and unite? We need huge numbers of people who can fight to repeal these unjust laws!

  3. We need to make MORE NOISE…..a LOT MORE!!
    The plague known as GPO/WEP has driven us into poverty. It has deprived us of our basic human rights. It has singled us out and discriminated against us. Congressional members will not listen, responding with their blah, blah, blah auto emails. If our tax dollars are paying their salaries, then we deserve a refund from these do nothing, high end thieves.

    Two thoughts run through my mind:
    How is our cause any different from the LGBT Community’s cause. We’re both discriminated against, both deprived of our human rights, and in our case, we have been victimized by the “lie, cheat, and steal” operations of congress….remember that game?

    The other cause that really bothers me is that America needs jobs, right? So how many jobs would be naturally created if the GPO/WEP were repealed. Too many state retirees are working far beyond retirement age, collecting their full SSI pensions providing they earn less than $38,000.00/year. How many would retire if those SSI pensions could be collected after retirement? And what about those putting off retirement? Think that would spur retirement and result in hundreds of jobs to be filled?

    Agree or disagree, it doesn’t matter as I believe I still do have first amendment rights(those have not been stolen from me yet as far as I know), and this is a PERSONAL opinion. Maybe it’s time to think “outside the box”, maybe it’s time for “alternative opinions.

    The Republicans will, of course, oppose the repeal. However, with their complete dysfunction and fighting ampngst each other, they appear to be scrambling for votes, might do anything to garner votes It’s only a thought…like I said a PERSONAL thought.

    After 36 years of fighting (widowed very young with two young children to raise and educate on my own), I am SICK AND TIRED of being CURSED with the GPO/WEP. Why can’t we, at least, borrow from our own SSI trust fund to consolidate debts caused by our deprivation of our SSI pensions??

    Making A LOT OF NOISE about being cursed and plagued by GPO/WEP. Would be wonderful if we could join forces against this atrocity. Is it possible to support each other?

    1. Actually, there is “bi-partisan” support for repeal; however, it is still bottled up in committee. I don’t think Congress has ANY intention whatsoever of repealing this outrageous theft.

  4. Even if WEP/GPO were repealed, I would STILL have to work until I die. Most people affected don’t even have “only” $1500 a month pension–try much lower than that, and the offsets STILL apply if you don’t have thirty years in “substantial employment” in Social Security-covered employment. Thanks to being unable to secure regular full-time or even part-time employment, I will be forced to collect Social Security at age 62. Combined with the Nevada state pension of $306, I will have less than $1,000 a month coming in. I estimate the offsets would be 50-60 a month, a LOT of money on THAT little coming in. There is NO spouse around to cushion the blow.

    The penalty was put in there around 1978, and you can tell it was, for many people back then stayed with one employer for their entire working career; hence, the 30-year rule on the offsets. Few people today stay with an employer that long, even in public employment.

  5. Hi folks: I work full-time right now, but I had a thought, if you could all help me (as I wrote on http://www.ncpssm...(whatever that long link is for the blog).

    I want to get 60 Minutes attention on this (if I can) Attention: Scott Pelley. I had an address and wrote once, and it got lost in the wind, b/c it was just ME and my direction to the “ssfairness.org” website, I guess. So, if I can do it, or someone else wants to do it, if you would be willing to email me and supply me with your email address — names are not necessary at this point, maybe we can start the ball rolling again?

    I had also thought of another communication outlet — Time Magazine, etc. But, we need a force, not bullshit politician pandering. People are hurting here, and they will continue to hurt. Individuals not affected really don’t give a crap. Again, if we can start a communication “tree” by supplying me (or if anyone else has more time, doesn’t matter — whatever) with your email address, I will wait, until I have, say 100 of ’em,” and try and start the ball rolling…… do you think that will help us?

    I will start: if interested in this approach at all, please forward an email address (just a contact email address, no personal information, please, to): roxiepet1234@att.net.

    If by some miracle of God we are contacted by Scott Pelley (or his cohorts) at 60 Minutes, and get our voices heard (you know, those shadow profiles on TV), then we need to tell Scott to thank “ssfairness.org” for their dedication and persevering.

    Okay, to get the ball rolling: me: roxiepet1234@att.net

    God speed.

  6. This windfall elimination provision/pension offset is just wrong, wrong, wrong. It seems to me , that a police officer that arrests someone that gets 25 years in prison will earn less social security then the criminal that gets out and goes to work. What happened to equal protection of the law.

    I retired in 1998 at the age of 45. I have been working full time ever since with the exception of 10 months. For 2 of these years I earned no social security credits according the the wep chart. It seems that everyone else earns 4 units each year including the aforementioned person who went to prison, got out , and went to work.

  7. retire and lost my social security becuse of a state pension i can not see persons who never work under social security getting benifits its not fair so please give us our money we worked for .we the people who vote for you.

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